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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 5, 2011 1:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI Feb 24,1974 - Wall of Sound and Oct 30, 1968

i don't know how much you trust my opinion, but i find the older copy to be much more listenable. my biggest complaint with the new one, is the bass has clearly been turned down. big no no in my book. phil is too essential to the sound. if you do a quick sound comparison, it's very noticeable. stick with the copy you have.

however, the upgrade on the 02/24/74 show, is slightly better than other circulating copies. cm somehow always manages to make the most pristine recordings even more pristine. i'm so grateful for his work.

This post was modified by rdenirojb87 on 2011-11-05 20:38:41

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 5, 2011 2:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI Feb 24,1974 - Wall of Sound and Oct 30, 1968

i DO trust your opinion, so thank you for the feedback, and i'll stick with what i have, which sounds great to my ears; i did get the gd2/24/74 upgrade, in fact it's going to get a thorough listen either later tonite or tomorrow, which i'm looking forward to, as i'm especially curious given that this is elbow's gun-to-head, desert island show

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Poster: polarized blue Date: Nov 5, 2011 3:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI Feb 24,1974 - Wall of Sound and Oct 30, 1968

Having a preview listen now, just on my computer speakers. A bit sleepy as I've just come in from a Bonfire Night party with fireworks and teaching my 6-year-old (very eager, I should add) about some fire-safety, such as how to poke the logs around with a rake without hitting Granny with the other end of the rake. Remember, remember the 5th of November. I've also had a beer or 3 and I don't think I'll stay awake late enough to hear the whole show properly, so hopefully tomorrow.

Always loved this show, Bill Graham gives a great intro. And I think I somehow remember that this run was known as the Soundcheck for the Wall of Sound. I might be confused about that. I love the Groovy-feeling beautiful spacey Dark Star (only 1 verse, but what a great 1/2 hour that jam is) and into a powerful Morning Dew. Yes, Morning Dew sure is a great song to begin with, right from the earliest versions the Grateful Dead started playing through to some very good later-day treatments, I think. But this is them in their hey-day giving it all they are worth. Up to about Candyman so far this evening. I still think they are still dialing in the sound, but that could be my speakers here and not playing it too loud at the moment. I'll be giving it the treatment on my full system tomorrow, God willing and the creek don't rise.

As far as oct '68, I'll give it a listen soon too, but I'm grateful for the review of the sound comparison to the other copy. I'll hold on to both before i decide which one is the best to my ears.

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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: Nov 5, 2011 10:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI Feb 24,1974 - Wall of Sound and Oct 30, 1968

the sound check show your talking about was at the Cow Palace 3/24/74 and the SoundTest/Check was stamped on the tickets. The show as I remember it was out of balance and some instuments could not even be heard until the mix was brought up. Clearly all the bugs of the system were not worked out yet.The versions now being heard are cleaned up and do not sound all that bad.The Winterland show that you are refering to I think had the distinction of having the whole tweeter array being blown.

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Poster: polarized blue Date: Nov 6, 2011 1:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI Feb 24,1974 - Wall of Sound and Oct 30, 1968

Thanks for the info. I'm sure I've read all that before and forgot. Just a bit of a lazy weekend and I got mixed up and too lazy to double check all my references. Have now listened up to Cumberland Blues on my headphones and it's sounding good. Not really compared the recording to the other version on my hard drive, but when it comes from Charlie, well, I'm sure he knows a lot more about it than I do, so I am trusting that it's the best it can be. If the kids and my sweet lady will let me, I plan on cranking up my home amp and speakers to the level I really want. Probably have to be when she's out.